Episode Archives

Episode 22. Atlanta is Great! DevNexus is Awesome, and we have a great Trivia game with Ted Neward and Chris Richardson

We made it! After taking a short flight, and re-assembling the crew in Atlanta, we finally made it to DevNexus, the conference run by Atlanta Java User Group. DevNexus is not just a great conference in itself, but it’s a great place to run and talk to top tier speakers without breaking the bank. We did our own talking by running into Ted Neward (@tedneward) and Chris Richardson (@crichardson)! We actually manage to sucker-punch them into playing a little game of Trivia with us! At the end, we explore if the Cloud the new Mainframe, and came to some interesting conclusions. An episode like no other, you definitively need to listen to this one!

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Episode 21. Java 9 is coming! And we’re leaving things behind (also, does US immigration affect Devs, and how?)

Ah, well, it has been promised, and it WILL be delivered. Java 9 is feature complete! And we start taking a look at what is (http/2 finally?), and more importantly, what was cut-off from the release. We also did dive into what does it means when developers can’t migrate to the US. Is it good for our industry? Or is it meh, as people just telecommute? And as long as we’re talking policy we touched on Net Neutrality since it might be an issue this year. Do we have to say goodbye to those millions and millions of undeterred bit streams?
We’re going to be doing a live performance at DevNexus!. If you happen to go in Feb, come and join us there!

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Episode 20. It’s the End of the Year! Let’s recap! and Oh noes, seems some FUD is coming our way from the Register?!

So the end of 2016 is upon us! And as such we should take a little time to reflect on what a year we had. Of course, before diving into that we gotta talk about the infamous article by the Register telling us Oracle is coming to charge us for Java (gasp!) by using some misworded (or misleading) headlines.

Also, Gartner is telling us that there are no Java EE Application Servers? True/false? We talk about it and let you decide!

Lastly we go into those conferences that we are going to try to make it this year, including a live performance at DevNexus!. If you happen to go in Feb, come and join us there!

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Episode 19. We live in interesting times (A Trump election, Tiobe Index, and Thoughtworks Tech Radar!)

Oh boy, We just finished recording this episode after the US Presidential elections, and like everything else, we are shock-and-awed about the results. Nevertheless we dive into what does it mean for Technology (and Java) having a Trump term. Would it be better for tech, what do we know about his policies, or is really Business as Usual? We also dive into the current Tiobe index, and visit Toughtworks Technology radar! (Docker is now moved to Adopt, and sunsetting Jenkins? huh?)

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Episode 18. We’re back from J1! And Brough Reza Rahman to talk about the Big Reveal on Java EE 8

It was a great JavaOne, full of news and mystery. Netbeans becomes part of Apache (or at least it’s on its way to be), and Oracle finally revealed what their big plan is for Java EE 8 (and asking about 9)! Do we hang up the “Mission Accomplished” banner? Did the Guardians did it? Come join us as we talk with Reza on what this new state of affairs mean for Java EE, the JCP, The Guardians, and Microprofile.io (and yes! @mminella has been unblocked!)

And don’t forget to fill in the surveys!

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Episode 17. Docker-Split? What’s the big Reveal at J1? EE 8 finally on track? JDK 9 late?

So we start with interesting news. Docker (The darling of the Dev and Ops world) is going through a split personality disorder! What does it mean to fork docker and why do people want to fork it? Also, we finally hear that Oracle has been planning deep on Java EE 8, just not sharing too much info on it. If so, then why are we not going through the JCP to discuss this things!? JEP vs JSRs and the claim that maybe OpenJDK should be outside of the JCP for faster evolution? is it worth it?
Come take a listen as your favorite curmudgeons talk about Java!

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Episode 16. CMS removed? Oracle Rebooting Java EE? Is Lagom finally 1.0?

In this episode we talk about the changing landscape of Java. Oracle apparently is rebooting JavaEE! But what does that mean? especially with Microprofile.io efforts? Also, Oracle is planning to “remove” CMS on a future version of Java. Is G1 really ready for prime-time? How is it possible for one organization to “remove” code? And Lagom finally made it to 1.0, even though we’re not sure if it really make any difference (it seems more documentation than anything else).
Come take a listen as your favorite curmudgeons talk about Java!


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Episode 15. Change is in the air? Is Oracle really letting Java EE die? The EE Guardians’ Petition and More

“Legacy is coming”, is the call of those that are Guarding Java EE. The Java EE Guardians started a Change.org petition (and I Signed it) to get Oracle to re-engage in the Java EE space. Are there alternatives? What is plan B? Can the community take over? Is it even feasible without fragmenting? Is this all happening because of the Cloud? Some of these questions were asked in the public forum of the Java Community Process. So many questions, and very little answers from Oracle. Take a listen as we explore the different on-the-record responses, what are the possible outcomes and how the community can get involved.

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Episode 14. of Googlacle, Superheroes (and EE Guardians), Oracle Stewardship, and Larry Elison’s comfy chair

Oh goodness! There is so much news going on now! Google and Oracle are on round 4 of their lawsuit, and while these giants battle it in Court, it seems that Oracle is stopping investing in Java Development! What does this mean for Java? Is it the end of rapid release lifecycles? Is EE losing too much steam? And just like in the movies, when everything seems dire, a new hero (sort-of) forms. The Java EE Guardians splash the scene! for Truth…Justice…and The Ameri…oh wait, no, that’s Superman. The Guardians are all about convincing Oracle that leaving EE is a bad idea. Would they succeed? Let’s hear what the opinion in the room is about these group of spirited developed banded with a purpose.


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Java EE 8, What is the Current Status: Case Study for Completed Work Since Late 2015 (Josh Juneau)

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Episode 13. The Good (Java Community Process w/Heather VanCura), The Bad (Corporations?), and the Ugly (Conferences and Controversial Speakers)

Do you know that Java can evolve right? Do you ever wonder how that happens behind the scenes? Well, we had a great opportunity to talk to the person that coordinates all that magic from the underside, and discuss, albeit briefly what we feel is great and not-so-great within the JCP. We also get to hear first-hand how changes are happening. Who really controls a change in Java (JSR)? how is leadership transition handled?, and what can we do about it. All questions raised by the most vested host we have (Michael), so take a listen!

Also, what do we do with conferences that have great technical content, but controversial speakers? Is it right to attend? or is it one of those “Knowledge is neither good or bad”? LambdaConf lost support from its sponsors for allowing a very controversial speaker purely on technical merit, whereas StrangeLoop decided to go the safe route and ban him from the conference. Who was right?


  • https://www.jcp.org/en/home/index
  • https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/Adoption/JDK+9+Outreach
  • http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/04/02/crowdfund-launched-support-programming-conference-refused-ban-speaker/


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