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OffHeap 82. FINALLY JAVA 21 is HERE

Old enough to drink Java 21 is officially released! This is the one we have all been waiting for! With Project Loom, structured concurrency and being the Long Term Support release, this is the beginning of another incredible era for Java and Java development!

So we dive into it and start charting out WHERE does Java fit as we embark in the incredible AI and LLM world (yeah, it’s not a fad… large language models are eating the world and we should get onboard quickly w/it!).

Take a listen, and explore with your most favorite (and usual suspects) the new world of the Java language!

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News
JDK 21
https://www.oracle.com/news/announcement/ocw-oracle-releases-java-21-2023-09-19/

Oracle Java Extension for Visual Studio Code
https://inside.java/2023/10/18/announcing-vscode-extension/

Jakarta EE 11 Release Plan and Timeline
https://jakartaee.github.io/platform/jakartaee11/

Microsoft Releases its own distro of Java 21
https://thenewstack.io/microsoft-releases-its-own-distro-of-java-21/

The Java Playground
https://dev.java/playground/?elq_mid=247681&sh=1712819176132226615152131013&cmid=DEVT230612P00024C00004

Google Antitrust Trial
https://time.com/6324490/google-antitrust-trial/

Discussion
Java’s positioning in the latest AI Wave

Conferences
JChampions 2024 Thursday, Jan 25 & Friday, Jan 26 & Monday, Jan 29 & Tuesday, Jan 30, 2024
https://jchampionsconf.com/

JFall Nov 9th:
https://jfall.nl/

JCON World 2023 Nov 21st (Online):
https://world.jcon.one/

DevTernity 2023 12/7-12/8 (Online):
https://devternity.com/

JFokus Feb 5th:
https://www.jfokus.se/

Devnexus April 9 – 11
https://www.devnexus.com

OffHeap 66. Faster LTS releases? And A new Java license you say? How…peculiar

So aside from being all giddy about Java 17 LTS release, we take now a deep dive on the changes that Oracle announced on their release schedule and Licensing. WANL (We are not Lawyers) but that didn’t stop us from discussing what could it mean, and where would it go!

Faster LTS, we are onboard. It’s fun to be able to jump from LTS to LTS, but what does that mean for older releases and maintainability (as Oracle longstanding policy is to sunset the “oldest” of LTS when a new one comes out). We see the interesting dynamics on this with the new “Oracle No Fee Terms and Conditions”, and what does that mean for Big Red’s plan for our favorite programming language.

In all, an interesting episode to pay attention to (and to know what’s important). Like all Licenses, do talk to a real lawyer before adopting a new license (we really are just code monkeys that managed to wrestle a microphone). Or go with another Java open source binary provider on the standard licenses (Like Adoptium!)

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Events:
SpringOne Videos Available
https://springone.io/

EclipseCon – October 25-28
https://www.eclipsecon.org/2021

Jakarta One – December 7
https://jakartaone.org/

Jconf.dev – December 8 – 10
https://2021.jconf.dev/

The new Dev.java
https://dev.java/

FooJay.io
https://foojay.io/

Intellij Updates
https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/whatsnew/

Netbeans 12.5 Released
https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb125/index.html

Reactive Summit – November 2-3
https://www.reactivesummit.org/

Oracle Developer Live – October 26-27
https://developer.oracle.com/developer-live/java-innovations-sep-2021/

jChampions – January 2022
https://jchampionsconf.com/

DevNexus – April 2022
https://devnexus.org/

Java Is Still Free!
https://medium.com/@javachampions/java-is-still-free-3-0-0-ocrt-2021-bca75c88d23b

Oracle Java 17 Licenses
https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/javase/jdk-faqs.html

Episode 49. End of Year Review… Oh, my, it has been an interesting year.

Ah, we got together with our usual suspects, and while our local Curmudgeon was enjoying his Old-fashioned, I was enjoying Cold Medicine. Even so, we went through the biggest events that happened this year, including the Oracle v Google debacle, The new copy-and-kill strategies from cloud providers, the proliferation of Java implementations, the re-emergence of Eclipse Foundation as a home for standards, and of course, the Java EE (reincarnated as Jakarta EE) saga.

It has been a great year, and we couldn’t have made it with our listeners. Thanks for listening to our podcasts. We have expanded our OffHeap family, so don’t forget to check all of our podcasts. And you can always drop off a line @offheap (https://twitter.com/offheap)

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Episode 48. On Jakarta EE 9 Band-aids, OracleCodeOne Debrief, Unionizing Tech, IBM vs Microsoft and Oracle JDBC Drivers!

Oh Goody, this is the first episode after coming back from both OracleCodeOne and ApacheCon… and things are happening! First off we start that Oracle JDBC Drivers are FINALLY in Maven Central (hey, missed the mark for a couple of years). We then dive into Jakarta EE 9 updates, including Oracle’s position on the “Big Bang” approach to the namespace changes (Hint, you WILL be affected by this, even when you think you aren’t).

We then look at Java SE 13 (Woohoo!), and that we can finally have Text Blocks (yeah, go crazy with that Json String), and look at Java SE 14 Early builds (including Helpful NullPointerExceptions). Spring is in the news as their Conference SpringOne went underway, and we talk about OracleCodeOne and ApacheCon (good, bad, bust?)

Lastly we cover Unionizing Tech Workers and what could it mean to our industry, and we end up by setting the record straight on an article that seems to imply IBM is divesting in Java (This is a far cry from the truth).

In all, a fun and great episode to listen while having a beer.

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Episode 46. On Clouds, 10x Developers, JDK Mystery Meats, and Python bytes!

Ah, “cloud wars” are getting interesting (we claim dibs on the movie title!). With Oracle losing their bid w/the Pentagon, and Microsoft also reaching out and partnering with Oracle, there is tons of interest in what’s going on.

But that’s not all! The twitters was set aflame by the 10x Developer twitter that has been going around (for the record, we think is mostly nonsense), and we dive into a hilarious take on what 10x developers are supposed to be.

We also dive into Gil Tene’s OpenJDK Mystery meat, and the threat of “just taking the latest Docker image”. It’s a sobering thought that sometimes even when you see the version of OpenJDK, it might not be the right thing due to the OS packaging, which in turn becomes a Docker reference image. In all a troubling precedent specially when Common Vulnerabilies and Exposures (CVE) are concerned.

Lastly, there are predictions that Python is going to overtake Java as the most used language in the TIOBE index. Of course this crowd will not just take that proclamation laying down. So we went into a heated discussion why and how it is (in our humble opinion) a little rushed to say that python is going to overtake Java in mere four years.

Tons of punditry, enough beer, and a whole lotta entertainment in this episode, so what’cha waiting for? Start listening now!

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Episode 45. Apache Roadshow in da HOUSE! Oracle says “NO!” to Javax, and A look at Diversity and Inclusion within Apache and Beyond

Oh snap! so The Apache Roadshow just happened, and we armed our own Bob with all our podcasting equipment, unload him at the roadshow, gave him a couple of beers, and turned the mics on! Recorded live from the bar we go into the interesting news (Java 13 is EA now), to the unfathomable (Jakara EE can’t update, change, or enhance the “javax” space), to a great discussion with Gris Cuevas on D&I.

In all, the collective Jakarta EE community jaws dropped once we heard that Oracle would not permit the evolution of the Javax package space. What does it mean for the community? What are the steps to evolve? Should we band-aid it, or just rip it off and move to the new space? Oh boy, and if you don’t think that this will affect you since you don’t use Java EE, let us mention…JAX-B, or JAX-RS…. or Java EE Security, or JSP.. or websockets… all of these are rolled into Java EE.

So take a listen as we navigate this new and perilous world of Jakarta EE, while we also explore, what Apache, Google and others are doing to better our industry’s D & I. In all, an episode to not miss!

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Episode 41. Oracle payment equality woes. MongoDB and Amazon Spat. And beware of Cloud Lock-in!

Oh my, we start by going over the current Oracle Women Pay Lawsuit (really Oracle?) and we dive into the big spat MongoDB and Amazon are having about their cloud licensing (Amazon is winning). What does it mean for other open source contenders? Did Mongo needed to protect its product as it did? Was it worth it? We explore these and more repercussions as Jeff Bezos executes on its cloud lock-in strategy

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Episode 40. Oh What a Year…Hystrix is gone, Eclipse can now do specs, and we just toast for 2018.

That’s it folks, we say goodbye to an interesting 2018, where we look back at release trains (we started on Java 9, now we are at 11), mergers (Microsoft + Github, and IBM + Redhat) and past conferences (JavaOne is no more).

And after that we put our gipsy hats and gaze into the future. Will the Train Release keep delivering? And is the OpenJDK in risk of fragmenting (more)? We speculate and keep the punditry going for the last closer of an episode.

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Episode 37. JDK 11 is out! Java Licensing Model is changing! Linus gives an apology

Extra Extra! If you work in Java you gotta take a break from all other news, and listen to this episode! Java is changing its pricing model, and with that comes a lot of new consequences. You can still get it for free, but you gotta know what you’re getting into (Move to OpenJDK!). In another news, Redis is changing is BSD licensing (while usually free, now comes with a ton a caveats for cloud hosts). Lastly, Linus Torvald (the only one who’s a bigger curmudgeon than @michaelminella) has decided to apologize to those that had to endure his rants! Our industry is changing, and is moving forward!

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Episode 28. Back from JavaOne! With the dropped bomb on Java EE (or EE4J?), FN tech and more!

So it’s our anual JavaOne Debrief. After landing at the conference we got to take a look at what’s brewing behind Oracle. With our special guest @edburns we dive into the big Red plans for EE, the answer from Oracle on Lambdas (hey everyone is jumping into that train), and more. Sure to please, never boring, take a listen to our latest episode of @OffHeap

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